hsifeng: (Creative)
Ran into [livejournal.com profile] newperspectives via [livejournal.com profile] attack_laurel's petticoat post; She sent me some lovely information on another style of cord making*.  

This got me thinking, I need to post some research on the point making styles I am going to be doing as recontrution work. From what I can find on the net, lucet cording is period for the 16th century (I am making a leap to say that it existed in Germany since I don't have direct documentation). The same appears to be true of fingerloop braiding. 

*Now if I could only find period (16th C) information on the use of whipcording. I am drooling over a set of those lovely hanging bobbins, but I hate replicating a craft 'in person' at reenactment events unless I can document it....


EDIT: I also need to keep this resource in mind for a future book purchase. "Tak V Bowes Departed":A 15th Century Braiding Manual Examined by Elizabeth Benns & Gina Barrett, (2005)
hsifeng: (work...)
Yesterday was fun!

Spent all day at a Classified Personnel conference that my District holds every year. There were a *lot* of folks that I had never met there - some that I knew from phone and e-mail contact but many that I had never interacted with. Not a big shock, I have only been with the District for three months. It was really nice to run into an old college mate who is working in DSP&S (disables student services) as their head ASL coordinator and interpreter. I am used to people walking up and saying, "Don't I know you?" and 90% of the time they don't - I just have 'that kind of face' that seems to be like someone they've met before. So it was nice for a change to realize that I *did* know the person passing me a note in the middle of a conference course. Christina was studying sign language when I met her in college about 10 years ago so it is nice to see her working in that field. I remember her as being very nice and very animated - and she still is. *chuckle*

After the conference closed at 4:00 PM I went to Meg's shop and started working on getting my 'hand in' on lucet cording. I will be going back for at least the next few Thursdays. Meg keeps the store open until 8:00 PM on those nights and hosts anyone who wants to sit in for assistance on their project. She had a sock class going last night, but regularly walked around the grouped tables in the middle of the store to 'check in' on what people were working on and answer questions. It was nice to just sit and chat, even with folks I don't know at all! I I have updated my Making a wHole entry with the results of last nights work and will continue to add to it as the project progresses. I am trying to keep all the information grouped for future reference.

The events of yesterday have pointed out something that I have been noticing for awhile. I am not really good at walking into a group of folks I don't know anymore. I used to be fearless - or at least clueless - and run head long into new associations no matter what the situation was. Seriously, no crowd of strangers could slow me down! Now I don't seek interaction with people I don't know as readily and tend to end up feeling awkward more easily. I don't know if my perception of other people has changed or my perception of myself. *shrug* Or maybe I just don't seek other folks for company as much as I used to. I don't know if I like the new situation or not. Weird.
 
hsifeng: (Creative)
OK, I have a few techniques I am planning on testing out and I am going to document them here for others who might find them interesting. They have to do with the making, binding and filling (use) of point holes for the 16th century.

The scope of the project should be worked out before the first weekend in April (when I plan on my husband using his new Waffenrock with these items in place on it), for the School of the Renaissance Soldier.

Project #1: Point holes reinforced with metal rings ala the examples in Janet Arnold.

Project #2: Point lacings made of lucet cord

Project #3: Point lacing made of fingerlooped braids.

Project #4: Point lacings made of linen (via my new ¼” bias tape maker).

Updates as I make progress…. The Waffenrock should be ready for me to place points on by sometime next week...

UPDATE ON POINT HOLES #1: 3/17/08 


Completed 'test holes' in sample fabric work up. Sample fabrics used match the liner and wool outer that are being used on my husbands new Waffenrock: That means two layers of medium weigh canvas and two layers of light weight wool had holes put thru them. A picture of all materials used is included below. These include the sample fabric, a tailors awl, a #4 (5/32") leather hole punch & a variety of copper and alloy 'jump washers' that I flattened using a pair of needle nosed pliers - washer sizes #8-#10.


 

Discovered that I like the punched holes more (*duh* the threads are no longer there to crowd back in to the voided space - making the sewing much easier), but that the tailors awl holes were almost identical in size so long as I worked them *with the awl in place* to hold the shape until the threads were in place to retain the shape of the opening. The awl also worked well for holding the metal backing ring in place while I did my sewing...hummmmm So, I guess I really don't know which technique - punch or awl - that I will use on my final product. *shrug* I don't have to make a decision 'right now'. *chuckle*

Photos of finished hole included, with close up of metal backing ring in place - this is taken from the 'back side/inside' of the fabric.  Please forgive my late-night-tried-after-sewing-all-day stitch technique. *grin*


 

Need new photo of finished hole - this first one was too dark...
 

I will be taking my test fabric to Meg's tomorrow so that I have sample sizes to test my completed points lacings against. With any luck, I will get both lucet and fingerloop braid completed to use as samples.

 

 

UPDATE ON POINT LACING #2: LUCET LACING - 3/19/08

OK, so I *may* change my mind on this once I get a chance to try fingerloop braiding - but I am pretty sold on lucet cord for points at this time. They are easy to produce - you can make them in multicolor if you want to (still need to learn this technique) and stretchy which would be an advantage when dealing with the points at the back of a man's Hosen/Wams connection. I will upload some photos of my work in progress: Still plan on meeting with Meg again next week to go over finishing the cords and how to do some other styles of laces. I tried four types of fiber: Handspun wool, medium weight wool yarn, embroidery thread and embroidery floss (all six strands). What I learned is this:

Handspun - I need to work on my spinning! *chuckle* Seriously though, I used to think it was soooo cool that I could spin such a fine thread. The only handspun I had to work with was waaaay too thin and wouldn't have held up well. I may still geek out and spin a heavier thread on my walking wheel to lucet and hand dye for points. The thought did wander across my mind that fulling a handspun lucet cord might give a nice stretch while still retaining the overall strength of the fiber. Something to play with later...

Wool yarn - unless you use a *very* small yarn, you are going to get a final cord that is way too big for a point hole. This weight might be good for some other cording applications, but not my points.

Embroidery thread - I think this might work out if my point holes were larger. It comes in a wide variety of colors and is already 'spun' so it would be pretty strong.

Embroidery floss (all six strands used) - this will be what I am using on this project unless something else jumps out at me. The final cord was the right size for my holes; the material comes in a wide variety of colors and has a nice finish and stretch when corded.

Now to get hubby to make his aglets....*grin*


 

UPDATE ON POINT LACING #3: FINGERLOOP LACING - 7/16/08


 

 

I have been playing with fingerlooping on-and-off for three weeks now. Other than the confusion that comes with interpreting each pattern authors 'take' on explaining the process of their braiding, it is easy and almost mindless once you get into a rhythm.  I have only tried two types of fiber with this cord making technique and here is what I have found:

 

Wool yarn - This makes some very nice trim work, and can be done (at least in the three loop braid that I know so far) i a manner that produces a flat tape. I love the overall appearance and can't wait to learn more patterns. By far the easiest material to work these projects in - forgiving on the fingers and easy to 'untangle' when necessary. WINNER!

Embroidery floss - This makes a nice, tight cord for lacing (it looks a lot like the four strand braids when done, but easier to do!), and can come out nicely when done in three loop pattern with more than one color. However, it is murder on the fingers! I will learn to endure it because I think I am going to make hubby a brown and red set of points for his Waff (to replace the red only lucet ones that he is using now) - I really like the final product!


 

All in all, I should learn to just listen to

[livejournal.com profile] jillwheezulwhen she tells me that I "should just use fingerloop braids for points". *chuckle* But then I wouldn't have had a much fun!

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