Later Period Germans

[hsifeng]

OK, first off – thank you for your patience with my little ‘Origins of the Landsknecht’ blog-series/project. I swear, I *am* actually sewing and will blog about that soon as well. As a point of observation; I say I won’t quilt because I don’t see the point of cutting fabric into small pieces, sewing it back together and then cutting it up again to sew it in a pattern…and yet I make men’s early-period German costumes where that sort of thing happens all the time… WTF?!?

Aaaaanyway...

In the meantime I want to blog about the costume that I am going to be working on next for the 16th C. And I mean it; I am going to do this one. For sure. First of all – it’s later period. And considering the number of faires that my husband I do that are Elizabethan, this should be a no-brainer. Second, the image for my dress is actually From Köln. You know, that city that my character and her husband are from. And given the amount that I rant about regionalism, you’d think I’d have put my money where my mouth is by now. (*insert eye roll here*) Finally, I have been told by the Costume Mistress at the primary event that we attend that my husband can wear this if I make him the later period set to go with it!

Nürnberg Comedy Commemorative Moose Hunting Hat





And for the color versions, (thank you mmcnealy!) go here. Trust me, GO. It is worth it...

Anyone want to lend a hand with a translation of this bit?


Yes. That hat actually exists. 

EDIT 9/9/11: And now I realize that LJ is a bastard and is eating the images of the clothing that I am planning to accompany this hat.
 
/insert copious cursing here as LJ continues to baffle and annoy me in my efforts to add those images back in to this post
 
Without further ado:

 
I plan on making the red dress to the left of this image; although I must admit I have found a few other Kölnish examples that are tempting me as well (which I will blog about separately). 

Comments

[femkederoas.livejournal.com]

You're too much fun. :-)

I think it looks knitted - seed stitch or moss stitch, maybe?

[alysten.livejournal.com]

I would so totally wear a monstrosity hat like that.  Your husband has good taste.

As a point of observation; I say I won’t quilt because I don’t see the point of cutting fabric into small pieces, sewing it back together and then cutting it up again to sew it in a pattern…and yet I make men’s early-period German costumes where that sort of thing happens all the time… WTF?!?

This. In spades. I will gladly sew pieced pants. But quilting makes me want to stab myself with scissors.

[virginiadear.livejournal.com]

"I say I won’t quilt because I don’t see the point of cutting fabric into small pieces, sewing it back together and then cutting it up again to sew it in a pattern…"

That isn't what makes quilting, quilting. What you've described, there, is the piecing of a top (sometimes, of necessity, backs of whatever the quilted article is had to be pieced, too) or the outer 'fabric' or surface of said quilted article.

The quilting is the stitching or tying together the front and the backing at intervals, with the stitching or tying threads showing on the surface; it's done to secure the two pieces and the batting or wadding if any is used. If protective padding is part of the article's function, then there will almost certainly be batting or wadding.
Somewhere, quilt possibly in Averil Colby's masterful work on the topic of quilting, is the mention of quilted armor for which there were specifications written out: so many layers of linen or cotton fabric, depending, had to be laid on, between the outer cover and the lining, to be able to stop arrows (and maybe thrown spears?) Somewhere there is at least one reference to paper being used, too, as padding in armor, but personally I find that kind of hard to swallow: paper was frightfully expensive during the Middle Ages and Renaissance, and hard to come by, I understand, as long the Church held a monopoly on it.

For the Sooper Knitters...tattycat, are you there?

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[love3angle.livejournal.com]

Ok. For the record, the moose hat RAWKS!

Second, that you a thousand times for actually being German if hubby is going to wear pants like that. I loathe seeing those on "English" people at fairs.

Third, I think the modern equivalent of hunting (as you describe it) must be bowling.

[rosinavs.livejournal.com]

Hi, I'm a SCAdian, 15th century German persona, and a knitter and want to knit this hat so badly! My friend alysten pointed to it. My husband might actually even wear it, the garb butterfly 16th century travelling Cossack that he is. So, where did you find it? What kind of yarn is it knitted from? stitches/rows per inch or per cm?

It looks like the moose was made separately and attached somehow, but it's hard to tell. The background is seed stitch, and is a great example of purl stitches before 1600 (a lot of people still think they didn't know how to purl back then.)

[brickhousewench.livejournal.com]

Ah how I love the ridonkulousness of plunerhose (which, ever since I read about all the stuff they pulled out of one fellow's pants, I always want to write as "plunderhose").

[jillwheezul.livejournal.com]

Nurnberg, Germanic National Museum - Inventory Number W 3248, East Prussian, 1551-1575, Linen yard, knotted (i.e. macrame) 27 cm diameter, front has stag applied, glass eyes and reddish oil paint.

Its a helluva a thing, but East Prussian clothes look more Polish. I can hook a girl up (my Oma was from East Prussia). I think the guy you have may be Bavarian, but then he coulda bought the crazee hat on a hunting expedition to East Prussia. It has a long German tradition. (Google Rominten)

So you wanna go all Köln on us? Did you know that in the Cologne dialect a dress could be called a fuike or some variant of this spelling. You could have fun with the name!

[sstormwatch.livejournal.com]

I haven't macramed since I was a teen. And no, I won't attempt something like that, which is different than the plant hangers I did. But it isn't that hard to do macrame if you want to attempt it.

You do know knitters, and it would be worth asking them.

I love the outfits you've chosen to work on. We will be quite the match, both of us in black and red outfits, you in German, me in English.

btw, want to get together this week or next for sewing?

[therru.livejournal.com]

Hi! I popped over to look because of tattycat/beatriz aluares, and although I'm not German and don't actually speak the language, I am Swedish and the languages are close enough that I can guess at the meaning, with the disclaimer that I may have got something wrong, and hoping that a German-speaker will, if so, correct me. Anyways, this is my fairly good guess of what it means:

Nuremberg * Germanic National Museum * Inventory no. W 3248 * Hunting hat * East Prussia 1551/1575 * Linen yarn * knotted * Diameter: 27 cm * Appliqué of a deer/stag in front, with glass eyes and red oil paint colouring *

Yes, I think it means "knotted" (and not "knitted", knitting is "stricken" in German) and sadly it also says deer and not moose (moose would be "elch").

Hope this helps. :)

[mmcnealy.livejournal.com]

I've uploaded the pictures, you can find the post with the link here, http://mmcnealy.livejournal.com/475041.html