hsifeng: (Free Speech)
hsifeng ([personal profile] hsifeng) wrote2008-08-25 03:40 pm
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Really People?

http://www.presidentpolls2008.com/

Look, Obama isn't my first (second or third) choice....but McCAIN people? Really? How is this suddenly a 'break even' poll?

[identity profile] hsifeng.livejournal.com 2008-08-28 02:44 am (UTC)(link)
I think Obama's Team seriously misjudged their VP candidate: I think a lot of Dems (quite a number of them women - we do make up more than 50% of the adult public in this country) expected Hillary Clinton. One of my bosses at work says her hard-core Dem daughter isn't going to vote because she thinks Hillary should be in the White House.

Partnering with a 'rich white guy' helps to 'balance' his ticket, but it screws the ideology.

[identity profile] docryder.livejournal.com 2008-08-28 04:45 am (UTC)(link)
On the other hand, having two candidates that white male working class voters (still the biggest block of voters, by population) can't identify with might kill the campaign as well. It amounts to a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation. Some voters, any way they went, were to be lost.

As to women voters, Hillary really couldn't count on that block, as women change their voting style as they age and marry and reproduce. On average, their voting becomes more and more conservative as they move through these stages. And as our country ages, that means more of the female vote will actually likely go to McCain.

[identity profile] hsifeng.livejournal.com 2008-08-28 02:34 pm (UTC)(link)
My understanding is that Hillary was strong in both her female and elderly demographics – stronger than Obama. While I don’t really care who he picks as a running mate, and I do understand that he would loose some folks either way (although I am not convinced that anyone knows enough about the composition of the ‘swing’ voters to judge that accurately, and pissing off part of your core – female Dems – just seems like a stupid risk), I think Hillary was a stronger candidate and partner that Biden will be. To be blunt, I think Clinton may have been passed over because she was unlikely to be a ‘quite’ VP and may have overshadowed her Pres more than would have been comfortable.

[identity profile] docryder.livejournal.com 2008-08-29 05:13 am (UTC)(link)
I think the "Quiet VP" is exactly why she was passed over. The Clintons are known as controlling and manipulative. This was a deliberate act to curtail their power.

However, I also think Biden may surprise some people. He's surprised me already.

[identity profile] docryder.livejournal.com 2008-08-29 05:11 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks! :-D