Really People?

[hsifeng]

http://www.presidentpolls2008.com/

Look, Obama isn't my first (second or third) choice....but McCAIN people? Really? How is this suddenly a 'break even' poll?

Comments

[sstormwatch.livejournal.com]

Ah, but Obama doesn't have to actually do any changing for the people to be afraid. My point is, and racist it will sound, but he is a man of COLOR (even tho he is half "white" like me), and that alone is too much change for some people. I heard similar things being said about how Hillary would not be voted in by them simply because she was a *Woman* (and they thought of her as a bitch or worse)!!

I don't know if he will actually produce the changes he talks about, but as I see it, the current "status quo" is not something I want to continue.

[hsifeng.livejournal.com]

I see your point, and I agree with you. My boss's husband (who is a Peruvian immigrant) tells her frequently that the US can’t brag about being a ‘democracy’ until they actually elect someone who isn’t an upper class white male to the Presidency. You’d think we would have managed it in over 200 years….*rolls eyes*

[docryder.livejournal.com]

I've seen or heard that "200 years of so-called 'democracy' and it's still rich white men" a lot lately.

[hsifeng.livejournal.com]

I think Obama's Team seriously misjudged their VP candidate: I think a lot of Dems (quite a number of them women - we do make up more than 50% of the adult public in this country) expected Hillary Clinton. One of my bosses at work says her hard-core Dem daughter isn't going to vote because she thinks Hillary should be in the White House.

Partnering with a 'rich white guy' helps to 'balance' his ticket, but it screws the ideology.

[docryder.livejournal.com]

On the other hand, having two candidates that white male working class voters (still the biggest block of voters, by population) can't identify with might kill the campaign as well. It amounts to a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation. Some voters, any way they went, were to be lost.

As to women voters, Hillary really couldn't count on that block, as women change their voting style as they age and marry and reproduce. On average, their voting becomes more and more conservative as they move through these stages. And as our country ages, that means more of the female vote will actually likely go to McCain.

[hsifeng.livejournal.com]

My understanding is that Hillary was strong in both her female and elderly demographics – stronger than Obama. While I don’t really care who he picks as a running mate, and I do understand that he would loose some folks either way (although I am not convinced that anyone knows enough about the composition of the ‘swing’ voters to judge that accurately, and pissing off part of your core – female Dems – just seems like a stupid risk), I think Hillary was a stronger candidate and partner that Biden will be. To be blunt, I think Clinton may have been passed over because she was unlikely to be a ‘quite’ VP and may have overshadowed her Pres more than would have been comfortable.

[docryder.livejournal.com]

I think the "Quiet VP" is exactly why she was passed over. The Clintons are known as controlling and manipulative. This was a deliberate act to curtail their power.

However, I also think Biden may surprise some people. He's surprised me already.

[hsifeng.livejournal.com]

Had to share:

[docryder.livejournal.com]

Thanks! :-D